{"id":804,"date":"2009-11-05T13:33:41","date_gmt":"2009-11-05T21:33:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rockgrrl.com\/blog\/?p=804"},"modified":"2009-11-05T13:40:04","modified_gmt":"2009-11-05T21:40:04","slug":"climber%e2%80%99s-guide-to-joshua-tree-camping-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rockgrrl.com\/blog\/2009\/11\/climber%e2%80%99s-guide-to-joshua-tree-camping-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Climber\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Guide to Joshua Tree Camping – Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"A<\/a>In Part 1 of my Climber’s Guide to Joshua Tree Camping<\/a> I shared a map I created, I’ve since updated it with a free wifi access coffee shop,\u00c2\u00a0 a convenient gas station and a place to rent camping equipment so be sure to check it out again.<\/p>\n

Now I’ll get to the Packing Question. What to bring?<\/p>\n

I’ve been camping in Joshua Tree in Fall, Winter, Spring, and yes, even the Summer. What I brought depended a lot on the weather. “But it’s the desert,” a voice from the back cries, “That means it’s hot!”<\/p>\n

Au contraire mon ami. Joshua Tree is in the High Desert. That means it can be hot in the daytime and cold at night (like most deserts) but also that it’s generally cooler than other desert areas relatively close by (like Palm Springs for example). That also means that in the Winter it can get darn cold, even cold enough to snow (rare, since snow needs not only cold but moisture as well, but it HAS happened).<\/p>\n

So first off here’s a site I check for the weather: Weather Underground for Joshua Tree, California<\/a>. When I look at the forecast I keep a few things in mind: 1. this is for the town of Joshua Tree, not the entire National Park, elevations within the park vary and so can the temperatures, generally it will be a tiny bit cooler than the town temperatures, maybe 2 or 3 degrees cooler but sometimes more. This will of course vary if you are in the shade or not 2. I look not only at the predicted highs and lows but also for any wind. The wind can get tent-tossing-fierce in Joshua Tree. I’ve experienced it more than once and had a tent blown away and have also had climbing plans change due to crazy winds.<\/p>\n

Once I’ve got the weather checked I usually pack for either of two situations: one, it’s going to be mainly cold or two, it’s mainly going to be hot. The cold or not bit just determines how many short vs long pants I bring & if I bring my down jacket or not.<\/p>\n

Otherwise Joshua Tree is both cold and hot, you can, on the same day, bake while doing a climb in the sun and get chilled by belaying in the shade. Breezes also almost always kick up in the afternoon. Think layers.<\/p>\n

I’ll be making a comprehensive list you can check off and copy and modify as your own but I’ll highlight a few items in this post first.<\/p>\n

Clothing<\/strong><\/p>\n

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  1. A windproof jacket you can climb in – with my wardrobe that means I bring my favorite jacket, a stretch Windstopper jacket that even has zip vents. This type of jacket comes with me on every Jtree trip due to the hot in the sun but cold in the shade Jtree factor.<\/li>\n
  2. A long sleeve shirt – If I’ve determined it’s a “mainly hot” trip then I’ll bring a shirt geared mainly for sun protection. If it’s a “mainly cold” trip then I’ll select one for warmth and I’ll bring more than one.<\/li>\n
  3. A fleece hat – You’ll always use this on a trip. It might be just used at night or the in the morning but you’ll use it.<\/li>\n
  4. Sunglasses & A hat with a brim – It’s a bright sunshiney day in Joshua Tree pretty much year round.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Toiletries<\/strong><\/p>\n

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    1. Sunscreen – Hey, I’ve got genetics helping me but the first time in my entire life that I ever got sunburned was at Joshua Tree (sadly I’ve seen been sunburned a fair amount of times since then).<\/li>\n
    2. Lip balm – I get chapped lips in any season in Jtree. It’s that dry air.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      Food \/ Critters<\/strong>
      \nJoshua Tree camping is basically “car camping” so you can bring whatever you’d usually pack in that situation. I’ll instead highlight a few do’s and don’ts:<\/p>\n

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      1. No need to bring a bear canister – there aren’t any bears here. The largest predators you might see are coyotes and though they might skirt close to a campsite or two, they’ve never bothered any hardcase cooler I’ve left in camp (latched closed of course).<\/li>\n
      2. Soft sided coolers – There are small rodents and lagomorphs around so if you have a soft sided cooler you might want to stack it on the hard one to keep it out of nibbling animal reach. I’ve had a cooler nibbled right into and my oatmeal and trail mix completely eaten.<\/li>\n
      3. Food storage – You CAN keep food in your car, however keep in mind that the inside of your car is bound to get very, very hot. Most campers try to stow coolers in the shade of a boulder instead.<\/li>\n
      4. Trash – each campsite has trash and recycling dumpsters within walking distance of campsites so it’s pretty easy to just dump trash each night.<\/li>\n
      5. Other critters – I’ve seen one rattlesnake in Jtree in all the years I’ve gone. It rattled & we warned off some tourists who were about to come across it (it was on a trail in Hidden Valley). Tarantulas – I’ve seen a few of them. They are not venomous, though their bite can hurt. First one I saw I just brushed to the side before laying down egg foam crate to sleep on the rock face it had been exploring. Scorpions – Haven’t seen ’em, and I don’t worry about them (though I habitually check my camp shoes before putting them on anyway).<\/li>\n
      6. Water \/ Food – I already highlighted this in Part 1 but I just want to make sure you pay attention. You must bring in Water and Food into the Park. Bring lots of water. Remember it’s for drinking, cooking, and washing.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

        Climbing Gear<\/strong><\/p>\n

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        1. Long webbing, cordelette or static rope – If you have any of these consider bringing them if you want to set up anchors for top rope. JTree rock is very sharp so you can save your climbing rope a lot of wear and tear by extending your anchor so it has less rock to rub on.<\/li>\n
        2. A back up pair of climbing shoes – As I mentioned in Part 1, the rock \u00c2\u00a0can chew up your shoes.<\/li>\n
        3. Climbing Tape – Yes, I know there are some who decry tape usage under any circumstance but if you plan on spending a few days in JTree and want to climb for more than two of them, I suggest bringing tape and making tape gloves.<\/li>\n
        4. Guide books – There are so many climbs in the park that it can fill three books worth and then some. Here’s a link to the Rockgrrl Book shop, California Guide Book section<\/a>, I recommend you get the 1st and 3rd in the list or the 1st and 4th (and then the other two in that set when the updated versions come out). Having a guide book will help you narrow down where you want to climb, if you’re short on time you might want to seek out starred climbs rather than just any one you see. Guide books also come with handy area maps which will help you when hiking around.<\/li>\n
        5. Nut tool – Jtree has many gear swallowing cracks. A nut tool can help you get them out [that reminds me, I wanted to make a post about how to use a nut tool effectively, someone nudge me about that sometime after the trip?].<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

          More Climbing Tips in General<\/strong><\/p>\n

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          1. Decents – The number one question I ask of a climb (even before it’s rating most times) is, “What’s the descent like?” I’ve had my share of “epic downclimbs” in this park let me tell you. Many wouldn’t have been so bad if I had known what to expect though.<\/li>\n
          2. Beware of 5.7 and 5.9 ratings – Read my blog post entitled, “When is a 5.7 not a 5.7?<\/a>” Basically think “Old School” or “sandbagged” or “They’re kidding, right!?!” and you’ll get the idea.<\/li>\n
          3. Beware of R, X and Starred climbs – R and X are self explanatory. Starred climbs can be trusted to be memorable, though you can take that as you will.<\/li>\n
          4. Bolted routes – Many old bolted routes are by today’s standards, very run out (even though they may not be marked that way). If you have a route that you think you might be able to place gear, go ahead and bring a few pieces in case you want to make it a mixed route.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

            Well this is a long post, looks like I’ll have to make a Part 3 of my guide. I’ll also make the promised detailed, checkable, modifiable packing list. Hang in there folks, soon you’ll be a happy camper \/ climber in Joshua Tree National Park!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

            In Part 1 of my Climber’s Guide to Joshua Tree Camping I shared a map I created, I’ve since updated it with a free wifi access coffee shop,\u00c2\u00a0 a convenient gas station and a place to rent camping equipment so be sure to check it out again. Now I’ll get to the Packing Question. 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